I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. International visitor arrivals in Panama 2021 | Statista You ask good questions. All items were in one place at this point, and together the elements and biology dispersed them and kept some for the jungle. I think we are all seeing things that arent there. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. Why were they still in the jungle at 4:39 PM when they made their first distress call? Exhausted and waited somewhere near water for days. Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. Just behind her tied hand area. Also I see a black pipe if you look carefully near one of the red and black objects the one that was circled. This means either the user became incapacitated and was not operating the phone or was seriously confused. Had someone told them about something worth seeing? If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. What Is the Bermuda Triangle, and Do Pilots Really Avoid It? - Travel The indigenous locals that were committing the sacrifices were influenced by a villager that had recently travelled abroad and returned to his village with extremist Christian views. Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. Thanks and cheers. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Theres a blood splatter on her leg from her tendon being cut, to keep her from running away. Links that require download are high-risk by their very nature, so please consider uploading your media to a website like imgur.com or a similar alternative. These nameless trails arent monitored or maintained by park rangers. However, amiscommunication led to them arriving in Boquete too early for their program, which Kremersnoted was "rude and not at all friendly" in a diary entry. I see orange spray paint markings on the base of the tree further in the cave to Kriss right. However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. (this was enhanced by an AI as someone who has studied this sort of thing professionally, explains some of the distortions and weird patterns in the photos leaves and vines, the AI distorted her face lol and it made it appear she has no arm from the elbow down). If they did, then Im wondering if the dog named Blue went with them or was allowed in the taxi. Europe is the world . Depending on how many mobile towers there are the police should have information. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). Are too many tourists visiting Iceland? - BBC News Theres a red cord tied around her waist that wasnt on her in any of the other photos. That is EXACTLY what it looks like to me! What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. While I was reading over the story again, I decided to review their photos one more time. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. The point-and-shoot camera numbers its files in ascending order, the way most digital cameras do. They knew to be on guard and be careful. Perhaps this was a cave hang-out spot used by local teenagers. Ive been to Brasil and the Amazon and spent nights there in the rain with a crowd though. Very interesting and completely changed my mind. All comments are held for moderation prior to being published. September 1, 2022. With all the misinformation thrown out there and poor follow up work (likely to protect tourism), any ones guess is possible. No,they werent murdered. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. There appears to be a visible roof-like structure above Kriss head. Why would the perpetrators concoct all of the photo/backpack evidence? Who knows if the girls really went for a walk that day by themselves? Hi Jim, I appreciate your comments but please lay off the language of calling people fools. They know that youre supposed to find a river, so they set out in search. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. Who said there werent any scratches on the bones? Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. Probably the culprit or stupid tribe didnt delete anything coz they took pictures on purpose .for example to sell the footage .but allready the police or parents who asked the investigator to delete it .they just simply didnt want to show it to everyone. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. Hi Chris! PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. I like the wit and sarcasm. We live in interesting times. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? It most certainly is not a joke. Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. Why? Hope there will be a reasonable explanation to everything one day. Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. Chilling photos reveal final moments of missing hikers in Panama jungle If you dont know the story, I recommend you visit the link at the bottom of this page. Everything suggests they had no clue what they were doing when they took the taxi to the start of the trail. Perhaps this is someone who had already joined them along the trail, and that only one of the girls was cool with the third party thats why the complete change from the first exuberant pictures. The first all the black area behind her was blackened and smudged. Perhaps the killer of Catherine Johanet knows more, Hi, u might want to watch this vid it has theories dat i think might giv more insights to this case, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCaD8kRTwsI. The pictures taken were used to place Kris in pictures on the Mirador with Lisanne. If so then those could tell some information. Its very interesting that the dog is not clearly visible in any of the pictures. Where did he leave them? The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? I dissagree with her hand beeing tied. In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. Shortly after this photo is when the girls encountered trouble and tried to dial for help. It would be scarey.they could got attack by animal. & very very eerie all in all- I think youre absolutely right on its significance. I think this was a setup for the 2 girls from the beginning. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. You cant see any blue sky behind the branches and the rock is in bright sunlight which bleaches out the colour. The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. Most gangs in Panama are not big gangs with hundreds of members, like you would find in Mexico and El Salvador. One thing which confused me were the bras the smaller one looks more like a bikini top. The Darin Gap: "A nightmare with 1,001 demons" - Doctors Without Borders It actually came as a surprise to us too, but our conclusion had to be that it was an accident. An explosion in tourism has saved Iceland's economy. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. Yup, I toot checked and her video came only after this post. Why no video diary? Seems like no one has taken off in the direction of the dog and what it could have offered us. Alex Humphrey: British tourist missing in Panama - The Guardian I am Photoshop expert, and I promise you that its virtually impossible to edit images in any way without it being noticeable at the pixel level. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? Maybe they stumbled on a hidden stash of drugs or something wierd and were taking a photo of the location in order to report it to the police, but got caught before they could. Theres a lot of information in the photos but people are willfully blind to it for some reason. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? Yes, I can see that too Chyna Lee. Yes, this was taken after their photos at the Mirador. Would like to know exactly where and when the final day photo was taken. Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. Maybe its just pareidolia, but i think its a manmade object. For a time, manysuspected Froon and Kremers never got lost on the mountain, but wereinstead victims of a crime in town; this later proved false. The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. 4. to Kris left is a huge dark area that has been poorly obscured with pixellation. If Kris were injured and they couldnt use the phone, then why didnt Lisanne go get help? This would cover natural causes and the rucksack contents being in perfect condition. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Hi Chris, i heard of this case a few months ago and i read many articles about it. But shes too far out now. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. You can bet your life if someone was with them at that point, then they were the culprits who had something to do with the girls disappearance. He has collected much that is out there but still the majority is second hand and we have no information as to the voracity. Hi Chris, good question. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. No replies are deleted except in rare cases of spam, inappropriate language/links, or disrespect to another contributor. However being one of the last photos taken this location would be incredibly important to have investigated back in 2014 (or even still). Keep in mind nobody has seen all of the photos and we dont know why. There is an international consortium working behind the scenes to slowly and methodically continue the investigation. Fearing that these two strangers may bring the wrath of God upon him, he releases them into the jungle. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Froon had a Canon Powershot SX270 HS which contained numerous photos, many of which were of the period of time leading up to the day of the girls disappearance. It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. Other than the dog, the young women went on their hike alone, only asking for directions from a local innkeeper, who advised them to take a taxi back to town. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. Gangs usually just compete against each other and sometimes tourists are victims of opportunism or caught in the cross-fire. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. This case has captivated me. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Think. At least 3 tourists are still missing after gunmen kidnapped them in I think they were murdered and their greatest mistake was to travel to this little town in Panama. To me, this photo says it all. After the backpack was found the family got to see the pictures and the case was ruled an accident presumably the 30 or so pics the family didnt release showed the girls in bad shape,, the case went from foul play to accident after the pics were seen.. the pic of the girls hair was put on internet by her brother or something like that and was quickly photoshopped , the wound and eye were concealed. They got lost and they died of starvation and a hard ration, except for Chriss. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. Snoeren and West believe that flash floods, which are typical to that area, would make strategically placing items impossible. Im sorry but the question deserves a dumb answer. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. Youre welcome to do that other places online. https://photos.app.goo.gl/sLXepriuWAxz8t1R9. the only strange element in this photo is the distance. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . One showed Kremers with what looked like concern on her face,dated around the time of the emergency calls. When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. There is no question thats what it is. It took us quite some time to get there, the authors explain to The Daily Beast. His . Daytime would be sweaty but what about at night when the temperature would be down in the 50-60s? Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? All facts are not available in this case. At that time, she had her phone. Nonsense. The dog wasnt in any photos, nor were the girls photographed after their disappearance. I was surprised to learn that. There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. Also last year, 22-year-old Florida man Craig Taylor was found strangled to death on a dirt road in Punta Sam, north of downtown Cancun. Ive kept comments on this article open for civil and respectful discussion. or Years later, some people still believe someone killed the pair. I was clearly kept elsewhere and planted later. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. I think Kris was about to have a quick look in a man-made structure she had stumbled across just to explore. The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. The dark side of cruises - MarketWatch Also why make them at night and not during the day? I hope justice is found for these girls, so very sad & just horrifying. I dont see any pit. She looks disorientated almost. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Where is YNW Melly? Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. Highlighted areas of interest (some not yet discussed I think): I think the night pictures were made by the killers to make it look like they were lost and trying to signal for help. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. He has a whole series of You Tube videos (over 50) that were made that show that the pictures were manipulated and he names the suspect. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. Both of these 2 boys died shortly after, by murder or by accident. Panama International Travel Information Perhaps the truth will come out someday. If you look at her shirt, it appears to be red and white striped. Were their phones not able to text? This case certainly is perplexing, as many of the disappearances Ive written about. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. P.S. Well be mapping the trails with a GPS device, searching for the location of the night photos and capturing aerial footage of the rivers in the region. 90% take place right here in the US in state parks. For this websites credibility I would strongly recommend more thorough moderation of peoples comments. The area behind Kris is quite shadowed, but this seems to me to be more likely dense foliage than a cave. Tourists Who Stay in Panama Long Term Now Have to Leave for a Minimum David Lee Thomas Bass - Facts About the Musician. There are flaws in the manipulations, such as the photo timeline, the inconsistent resolutions, the missing photo (or video), the red lines on the shirt, incorrect shadow positioning, etc. After this, the photos were from April 8, 2014and likely snappedbetween 1 amand 4 am. To this day, the disappearance and tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remains a harrowing mystery. Looks like some of sort of indigenous artifact/trail marker. That would account for a canopy structure being built there. Yes! They are really good, especially parts 3 and 4, which give a lot of information about the girls photos. If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their book Lost in The Jungle. Meanwhile, on April 2, 2014, the pairmissed their appointment with their hired tour guide. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. They were not lost. Did they become lostand fall down a cliff? Also I wish we new more details on the phones. It holds a bad energy. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! This makes no sense. The overriding input is human. That is not a cave or a ravine behind her. Tourists Killed in Mexico Is it Safe to Go Now? - Yahoo! The blue item could be anything, but shows someone has been there before. I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. Eventually theyll have to confront these issues or nobody will visit and expats/immigrants/investors will leave. Shes been beaten into submission. Caruso, 56, died on June 17 after staying at the Boca Chica Resort in Santo Domingo. The land behind her is definitely at a higher level and could be rock. I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). They should be alive and flourishing today. Whatever happened and if it did not include a third party must have been serious and traumatic because we live in selfie times and as can be seen from their earlier fotos they were in the selfie zone. Could the structure built above be some sort of a net or trapping device? Apart from the fact if she was photoshopped in this picture, i.m.o. A decade under Maduro, migration marks Venezuelans' lives She turned around and they snapped a photo. Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. A piece of evidence that is irrefutable. Its so cold. She uses Kris phone, instinctively entering her own pin number. There is no traces of them anywhere. There is no database of how many people go missing in national parks every year but the National Parks Service has at least 29 cold cases of people who have gone missing and have yet to be found, with the oldest case dating back to 1958..