2 years in foster care waiting to be legally free for adoption is not that uncommon even today. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. Wrong. I am not saying she is innocent. At the very least, she should have been released by now. They went through the process which demonstrates a certain level of commitment in itself. After graduating high school, Steve went on to join the Navy, and Diane, having a strict religious background, was sent to the Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College. What?? In hindsight Im sure the grandparents wish they had pursued visitation more aggressively. Dianes brother, James, sat in court one day andnoticed Foote looking at Hugi before ruling on an objection. It appeared rigged: Rigged? I know several foster parents and social workers. The lousy men in their lives never took a hit because after all, it was these witches fault. It isnt there all the time. There is no way that a jury would convict Diane today, based on the clearly coached testimony of Christie. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. The parole board in Oregon was asking to provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society and it had to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Downs provided both. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. It was a dark and rural road. And other inmates were released with worst backgrounds. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? But Im on track and Im really happy with the way life is.. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. As for where he is now, we'll be honest, we're not completely sure. The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile. Become TUKO.co.ke ambassador get a branded T-shirt, hoodie or water bottle at our TUKO Shop! May be the guy who says he did it. This whole tale is just unbelievable. It is because she is a high profile person. They were in foster care for two years before the prosecutor adopted them. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. Simply because I researched them. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. Movie scene alleging that Christie was scared. Additionally, homicide or assault victims shot by someone else can test positive for GSR. Maybe that her mom was obviously not well after spending her life in prison so it would have been a good idea to meet the Downss family quietly and get the jest of it. So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter.A little investigation would not hurt. But strangely, they took no photos of the crime scene and did not lift fingerprints from the drivers side of the car. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. In a perfect world this would always be the case. She wanted a lawyer to defend her vigorously but the judge stopped her from getting good representation. And she laughed at it by saying it was healthy to want to join the free world, especially if you proclaim your innocence. Dianes parents had high hopes for her future, a future that didnt involve Steve, so they disapproved of their relationship.
Steve Howey, Sarah Shahi's Relationship Timeline: Photos Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. Maybe because of her notoriety and the victims were children. What about the fact that they never found the gun? Q. The fact that the children were in no way protected by Child Protection Services is undeniable. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial parent after the divorce. None of this is EVIDENCE of anything in regard to the murder trial, and not once did I read that it was. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. So she could not have shot her kids at the distance determined by the state unless she changed her clothing and it did not come up at trial. Q. So there was a transfer, but nothing else was found. Steve Bannon won't be detained before trial on charges of contempt of Congress after he failed to comply with subpoenas from the House committee investigating January 6. The way this investigation and the trial were conducted only left me with doubts.
Mother of Diane Downs Asks Oregon Governor to Review Case and Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. Then ask yourself if thats how you want your son to grow up. I agree about pregnancy and childbirth affecting women differently, and even having different effects for the same woman with different pregnancies. I know people who know or knew people is not a valid argument. The judge who took away her children presided over her criminal trial.
'Leave It to Beaver' star Tony Dow explains why he wasn't allowed to What a terrible injustice. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. Surely before Diane downs, there were other mothers who killed their kids..or allegedly did, however in 83 and 84 it made national news, nothing quite like it had come across the media world, which during that decade was really skyrocketing in sensationalismI believe is where it started, becoming less news and more entertainment. And if you add the fact that they never found the gun, it doesnt leave much evidenceto back upthe theory that she was the shooter. No worries. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. But if you compare the time she was seen by the witness to the timing of her arrival at the hospital, it seems to indicate she went pretty fast, butnone of it was explained ordemonstrated properly. And yes, its your site, but dont act like a site is open for discussion if its not. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. Probably a 911 button. John Kitzhaber, Governor of Oregon I was also stunned that she took the reports of all of Dianes ( mostly married) ex lovers as absolute truth and never once questioned that they might have been lying and retrospectively minimising their feelings for Diane to protect themselves. Q. Dianes story does not contradict that. Oh my. Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. She is nowhere near being paroled and if she admitted guilt, I am not even convinced they would release her. Nice to see this blog is still active in 2017, being a lot of groupsmessage boards and such, on subjects like this has no activity for years. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable. If the media was anything at the time it was favorable towards her. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. Steve was among the few individuals who saw Elizabeth Diane as a beautiful young lady rather than an outsider. Steve made some piss poor choices when he had visitation with the kids after the shooting; he permitted them to go off alone with Dianne, when she was not supposed to have had any contact at all with the children. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. This blogger apparently believes anything she hears to support her inaccurate theory that Diane Downs was falsely accused and convicted. Diane Downs is an infamous killer who tried to murder her three children to pursue love. You make an interesting observation when you say: Anyways. If there is a fair trial and sentencing, I usually dont write about a case, but high profile cases tend to need more scrutiny because emotions run high. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. So until today, people still don't know much about him, and his whereabouts remain a mystery. I mean, yeah, I can see the no contact order with Diane. Maybe dad relinquished, it sounds like he may have. This blog is riddled with inconsistencies, suppositions and a lack of the most basic referencing (e.g. Surprisingly, he accepted the new child and learned to love him dearly. You were not there and one thing I have learned about high profile cases, is that you cannot always believe what the media, biased detectives and Ann Rule have to say. It seems like Steve and Diane were meant to be together. When she resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. There are documented cases of suicides where the person has no GNR, as well as murder cases. By the way, this not a Diane Downs is innocent blog. It is a lets examine the facts of the case with hindsight and try to explain some of the inconsistencies and the role of the media and crime writers. And lets wonder why the US think that letting people die in prison is the answer when most civilized countries have reached other conclusions. Problem with that is Diane has said during an interview with detectives that the sketch looks nothing like what she described. I agree with your comment. Diane was known for her love of all animals whichshe treated with great care, and for her independent and wild streak. I know better now than to accept blindly the truth presented to us on a silver platter by the media and the judicial system. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Children imitate their parents every move. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. Speculative. She was not in the car when her children were shot. RAISING THE BAR BUT CERTAINLY NOT IN ARIZONA, http://www.glamour.com/story/i-found-out-my-mother-was-a-killer-the-rebecca-babcock-story, http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf, http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php, http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n364/a03.html, http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080910_Prison-happy_U_S__must_reconsider_use_of_mercy.html, http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228, https://www.google.com/search?q=diane+downs+with+christie+cheryl+and+danny&sxsrf=ACYBGNQDEM3XNQjZXlqNQpYLhZCn7ic5iw:1576689995166&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjNuNT427_mAhUcJTQIHbveBMIQ_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1024&bih=462#imgrc=gQkU10UxNhHn_M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives, Say Her Name But Spell It Right The Tale of Breonna Taylor, And Justice For All The Watts Family Murders, Babe in the Woods & Big Country The Murder of Nicole Vanderheyden, Colonel Russell Williams Where Have You Been? The problem was, Diane has a long-documented history of adversely reacting to tranquilizing drugs. The GSR? Thank you for presenting a side of the story & case apart from the usual narrative. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. It is documented in the blog where I give the source In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. Anyways, I was 10 years old when this happened, I stayed with my aunt and uncle a lot in those years, in which they watched A LOT of nightly news programs.lol most of it was like white noise to me, as I would play with my barbies on their living room floorbut I do remember this story. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children: relevance? This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. Diane downs. Guilty or not, the case was handled with prejudice and many errors occurred. This was ridiculed countless times in the media, but frankly, it can be a very honorable endeavor, depending onhow you want to look at it. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. When a unicorn and hungry like the wolf make their way into a court room during a high profile trial, its a red flag. I tried to contact you by email but my email wouldnt acknowledge you email address. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. I am not one sided. Thanks for the link. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June 1983, 11 days after the shooting. Any thoughts on how the detectives basically made up their mind right away in spite of numerous tips coming in? It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). In my blog, I was referring to the case of Liysa Northon whose suit was dismissed, but when Ann Rule tried to sue the Seattle Magazine, its editor and Northons husband for their article on her shoddy work, she lost and had to pay restitution. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. As she is incarcerated, her fate is already sealed, servicing her life sentence in prison. Not that it matters, your opinion is about the case and not subject to geography. In Rules book, Diane is portrayed as a horrible selfish mother but her family and friends saw another version; she lovedher childrendearly and worked hard to be a good provider. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. I am just curious. She says she was outside the car n watched the man shoot her children n then the only adult n person who could tell police about him only gets a shot in the arm n takes time to bandage her arm. A fair trial is a right in this country, not a judicial suggestion. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, Why did the mean man shoot me? and it would be written down in the daily notes. The role of Diane Downs was played by none other than Farrah Fawcett and her lover was played by Ryan ONeal who had been Farrahs love interest in real life. A prosecutor inventing a new psychiatric category in court and labeling the accused is kind of unsettling. The forensic evidence alone is absolutely weak. Mind: Wrongful convicted. Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. Christie and Danny have no contact with their father, and they have completed their education. It opened a huge can of worms regarding the real identity of the heart full of lies in this case. I agree. Many attribute the conviction of Downs to the arrival of author Ann Rule at Downs' trial. She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. From what we know about Becky, she had chosen a difficult path and Diane was trying to warn her. Standards of conduct are defined by state law, but they generally require a judge to avoid appearances of impropriety, such as avoiding deciding a dispute in which the judge is personally involved in the issue at stake or has a relationship to one of the parties.. I do not believe that this type of abuse would occur today. She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done. In her book, Ann Rule made sure to mention that running water was heard by a dispatcher when Diane was at the hospital; insinuating that she was washing her hands and getting rid of evidence. But due to a law enacted in Oregon after she first became eligible for parole, she can now only apply every 10 years. Whats wrong with the system is whats wrong with us. So how she behaved at the time, should not have been a factor influencing the authorities. answer the question why didn't steve downs get custody, which will help you get the most accurate answer. The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. Even if I have no doubt that Hugi loved the kids, we have to wonder why he adopted them two years later just when little Christie started saying she had no clue who shot them. This is a more common route for children with parents who are incarcerated for what looks to be the entire childhood of the children. The jury verdict was guilty on all counts, but there was a mixture of votes. Diane had met all the requirements to be paroled. There is her story, the prosecution case and the defense arguments. Her ex-husband has been of great interest, considering his absence from the media despite the case getting significant attention. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. The discovery that he wasnt his biological child made him leave the relationship. One of the important pieces of evidence was the absence of all but a trace of gunshot residue. A test for the presence of gunshot residue conducted on Dianes hands the night of the shooting, returned a negative result (Appendix 23). Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense. I do not know what happened on Old Mohawk Road on that dark evening, but I know that they did not have enough evidence totry andconvict Diane Downs. Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. (Yes in the 1980s a ten yr like myself was not as mature as say todays 10 yr olds. The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. And the fatal shooting of her children by her wife in 1983 didn't do much to put him in the limelight. Someone said to me that any of us, if scrutinized under a microscope, would come out looking pretty bad. What about the judge stopping a defendant from getting a new attorney? Danny and Christie survived the attack while middle child, Cheryl, died from her injuries at the time. But I will answer the points you raised about the blog. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. I also grew up in as time of the most infamous case in Australias judicial history: Lindy Chamberlain and the dingo stole my baby. Its as if they cant control it. What I believe doesnt matter at all. Accused of her side of the story what the state says how would it be possible for her to do what they presumed. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). A. Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. Melvin Belli How things could have been different. Three weeks after the crime, Judge Foote from family courts, removed Danny and Christie from the care of Diane Downs and her family. Her parents Willadene and Wes were old school Baptist parents who raised her under strict guidelines without much warmth but complete devotion. People have always been wondering about Steve Downs, Danie Downs ex-husband.
Britney Spears's ex Kevin Federline gets increased custody of sons Andthe DA adopted her other two children. Messed. If I included the ones I dont post, it would need more than a like or dislike button. Instead, the person accused of attacking them and wanting them out of her life, fought for them. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. He was one of the few people who saw Diane, not as the outsider, but as a beautiful woman who was anxious to assert her independence. Gosh Donna, you really dont have a clue. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differently we been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence proven. I did not shoot my children.. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. I write about cases where due process is in question and important aspects were ignored or twisted. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? She did not fit in and was now anxious to assert her independence and live her own life. I recently found your website and have enjoyed it a lot. It's not even known if he still resides in Arizona, where he used to live with Diane and their three kids. Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. Unfortunately, he hasn't been as outspoken as people expected, considering the gruesome details of the crime committed by her ex-wife. The underlying basis of this article. I've just seen that in Halo's new tv series, Steve Downes isn't going to voice master chief. Click to read The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. He could not during the marriage so he walked away. Within a few weeks, a judge had placed the surviving kids, Christie and Danny, in protective custody. Within a few weeks, the kids who had survived were placed in protective custody and were no longer in Steve's care. Danny downs did indeed say a man shot him he also blamed a cartoon character. I couldnt get my hands on the book nor find anything in librariesso basically it was many years later I dove into knowing more about this case, that kinda haunted me. Its a fact. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. She met Robert "Nick" Knickerbocker and started having a relationship with him earlier. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. Danny was the product of an affair. Do not take this so personally. In 1984, the lead prosecutor in the Danie case, Fred Hugi and his wife, Joanne, chose to adopt the children (Christie and Danny). Right after her first surgery, The Detectives were adamant that they HAD to have Diane right then to recreate the incident- unless of course, you have something to hide. I am posting Jamesanswer: Yes the allegations were said and you cannot take back what was saideven if retracted Steve and Diane were married from 1973 to 1980, and during this time, they had three children. I will post it when I get it. A. Inside, outside, top to bottom. Then, 10 days after Diane was sentenced to life in prison plus 50 years, she gave birth to a daughter she named Amy Elizabeth. They rarely get a break. She folded it neatly around her arm.
The Pros and Cons of Getting Sole Legal Custody - Verywell Family Ask them what they did to a good man. They were tons of witnesses that saw him at work. Yet that didnt stop Knick from asking Mr. Frederickson for a job and for Dianes hand in marriage (Appendix 81, page Case History Page 25). The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb: opinion, not fact Not that Dianes mental health was not a factor in her letter, but it was definitely taken out of context in some instances. Her three small children, Christie, 8; Cheryl, 7; and Danny, 3 . That is why people wonder why such a vital family member never gave the anticipated insightful interview. I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. Brewer freely declared that Diane Downs would never have been convicted except that he believed the lie Jim Jagger permitted Fred Hugi to enter into the record. Downs, born Elizabeth Diane Frederickson, was a 27-year-old divorced postal worker when she pulled up outside a hospital in Oregon in May 1983. Just state that at the beginning of the blog. I still remember my mother picking up the paper and seeing the headline. Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? Be the first to get hottest news from our Editor-in-Chief, Check your email and confirm your subscription. Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. Diane clearly would have had to have had her rights terminated by the court. Some cases are so one sided that you feel like exposing or at least, discussing the other side. why didn't steve downs get custodylagu sekolah minggu bahasa inggris Opinion Fox News's blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats The not-so-shocking revelation that Fox News will not carry House committee hearings about the insurrection is yet another sign that right-wing media will go to extraordinary lengths to shield . She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. According to Rule and the court, the unicorn was a memorial to her children that she purchased after premeditating their murder. She repeated it years later at school. Conflicting reports say Downs also acted as a surrogate during her fourth pregnancy, giving birth to a daughter after her trial in 1984. It does not contradict what I said, but what they said. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php He then left !his second wife, Charlene, to cohabitate with (and propose marriage to) Diane.