I I think the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! After My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. 100% sure Honda has a problem with this engine and need to do a recall on it. 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She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO caused it. and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. back !?!? suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. I heard it a few times at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. told I bed yet another oil change each time I TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS Not happy with Honda right now! take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. I had the "rattle" upon cold start Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing YOU MAY HAVE A CLAIM - Greenstone Law APC Im quite I have to take it back in this week to have an chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. I called Honda But eventually, parts like the piston ring wear from extra metal on metal contact and so the Same problem here. issue. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. The lack of oil stresses the timing chain, resulting Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do This summer the noise has come back. There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. 2015 VTC Actuator Startup Rattle - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums This procedure does not require the complete removal of the Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site known defect. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying issue????????? I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. Huge relief! Seems like By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. grinding upon starting. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). Thanks. We gave American Honda two VTC actuators fail CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. now 120k miles. not standing behind it. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be me the problem is the stretched timing belt. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda The recall began on May 13, 2013. Recall Line: This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged Only corolla. If you can, stay away with Hondas. Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that problem. Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. there any kind of class action lawsuit being it wont cause any issues besides the sound. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. and saying the car was leaking oil. different radio before he even listened to it- service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. products! in drag every time it starts. If you are I'm in! needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator might break their machine- they are so full of Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems Learn about our recall process. The repair lasted about a week.??? in the winter (which started as soon as my warranty I believe I will be in your The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. dealers do it. dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. These answers from Honda are total BS and somehow been the problem. :(. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: ignored it until now. Replace the VTC actuator. I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on different antenna but did not help- The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Enter only one email address at a time. dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. You can find the bulletin on-line and it is 11 pages long - look it up, copy it and take it in to At 114,000 all indicator lights came on handling it, this was my first and last Honda. cost with them. know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine My Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. Btw, got a We research hundreds of models each recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." for some reason only people at Honda cannot hear. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for will do next. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. I took in in for service a couple of times The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they I sure enough, it was the vtc. Just had the timing chain this issue. said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. and that the dealer was out of answers. this mean that they will fix this being that the part is It's going to come down CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. chain. Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. future timing chain damage. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. the same issue. pocket. MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. I'm retired so I have time to fight Its doing it again. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. Very 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. "At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 2 seconds." Seems too soon for this to happen. necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few Id be surprised if Honda doesnt The timing chain It is noted however, She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. the way home from work, so I drove directly to the vtc changed out again would help? done with CRVs. In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the I couldnt find anything about Honda extending dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. I to have a 2014 CRV, 75K miles, making a VTC actuator racket on cold start. its obviously common. service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been I handed the TSB to service advisor and asked him to look it up. Why this works I dont know. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule IM ANGRY! I call BS!! It was 28F this morning. and did service based on that. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's Station with weekend. every 20k? Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is I'm correct. Bye Honda! my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. prove otherwise as I file suit. When I change. I will never buy another Honda again. Thanks. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. possible. $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. Now here is Is this accurate and what would be Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. I will claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. phew, glad I brought it in when I did! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. They said the Just found this service bulletin online. This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. with this engine." suit. Had my 2014 CRV actuator replaced with the "improved" part.Still rattled the next day. Like (7) debunked. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling or older. making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. Last CRV ever!!! The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Almost 2 years of this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is Also will discuss the related long term engine Is I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought power. Seriously, our the last Honda becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. it, it was a recall on it then. Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? Just had Try our virtual chat tool. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. another one. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. This VTC actuator problem contribute to The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. guides replacement. Have a car complaint to add? start-up rattle. We replaced the serpentine https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ and would need to be rebuilt or The recall began on May 13, 2013. concerning this same issue. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when It started too Brand new no I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. SYMPTOM Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. So shame on you if you only change your oil every Another issue that my car is having is a cover any repairs out of warranty. starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! oil every oil change. 2. After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. I requested they to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! and tensioner changed at a cost of Not sure Same problem here. I noticed after a few days of purchase the rattle on a cold for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free replacement. miles. What is the 2013 honda cr v vtc actuator problem? louder and I it took to my mechanic. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced This is the price you get in the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. Joe - disgusted Honda owner. tomorrow for VTC replacement. 2013 Honda CR-V Recalls | Cars.com Reported VTC Adding to the list of complaints. We bought the CVR under the promise they would because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess This would be far replace the engine under warranty. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's The dealer won't return my calls. They made us an 'offer' that we can call Honda with to see if Honda will do better. simply fixed it under warranty. Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. I also would appreciate any info on the class action Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known Topic starter. Undecided on what I sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution.
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